#231 - I Was Terrified to Give Birth… Here’s What Actually Happened

In this deeply personal episode of The Salisha Show, Salisha shares the full story of giving birth to her son, Ajax Anthony Weiss.

From the fear she carried around pregnancy and childbirth to unexpectedly going into labor before her scheduled C-section, Salisha opens up about every part of the experience with honesty, humor, vulnerability, and gratitude.

She talks about performing while pregnant, preparing for Hugh Jackman’s Radio City residency, laboring through contractions she didn’t realize were contractions, walking through New York City in active labor, getting the epidural she desperately wanted, and the surreal moment of finally meeting her baby boy for the first time.

CHAPTERS:

01:00 Fear of pregnancy, childbirth, and career changes
02:20 Finding out she was pregnant during Hugh Jackman rehearsals
05:00 Labor Day false labor experience
06:30 The morning labor actually started
10:00 The decision to go to the doctor
14:00 The “Diana Ross feeling” and trusting intuition
18:00 Arriving at the hospital in active labor
23:00 Epidural experience & overcoming fear
26:00 Pushing for 20 minutes & meeting Ajax
31:00 Postpartum healing & recovery
34:00 The emotional reality of becoming a mother

This episode is for anyone who has ever been afraid of pregnancy, birth, change, or stepping into a new chapter of life.

@salishathomas @thesalishashow, www.thesalishashow.com

Many thanks to Gotham Network in NYC, TyNia Brandon for writing and laying vocals down for the updated theme song and Big Red Studios for the intro video wherever you watch the latest season of The Salisha Show!

Transcript

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Hello, what's up? It's May Seleja, and welcome back to the Salicia show. Okay, so in the last episode, I referenced a lot of things about my birth story, and I just want to put it on the record, mostly actually so that I also don't forget some of these details as well. And also I just I really hope that I can encourage somebody out there who might have been like me who was so afraid. So afraid to get pregnant, so afraid to have kids, so afraid to like take this next step for whatever reason. For me personally, I have just been terrified for career reasons, for physical reasons, and obviously I'm only four weeks in at this point of recording this, of like four weeks into being a mom, four weeks postpartum. But as of right now, today, I can say with confidence and joy that all the things that I was afraid of, it was nothing that I thought it was going to be. And it was actually way better in terms of the actual day of birth, the healing, and also being able to work while pregnant. I didn't think it was going to turn out this way across the board, and God really surprised me, really surprised me in a really beautiful way. So you already know, if you've been up to date, that I was able to work all the way from my pregnancy. I I started rehearsals for Hugh Jackman's show for his Radio City residency beginning of January 2025. We were in rehearsals. They, him and the um music supervisor, Patrick Vacriello, invited the backup singers to be a soloist in October. That would be nine months later. And and that was in January, our first week of rehearsals. I, the first words out of my mouth were, oh my God, I cannot get knocked up. Because I knew Andrew was trying. And I say Andrew because I was just rushing rouletting it. I'm like, we'll just see what happens. I'm not rushing anything, but I'm also not stopping anything. And we've been married for two years, so whatever. Like, why not? But I people ask me all the time, were you trying? I was like, well, I was just going with the flow. He was Andrew was trying. But I didn't know at the time. We got invited to do the solo. I said yes. I said, I can't get knocked up. They said, Yes, you absolutely can. As long as you can walk out on that stage, you can sing that song. And I went out, I think the next day, and bought a gown. The next day. The next day, I bought a gown to sing the song in. Because I was always the backup just in case. Well, all three of us ladies were the backup of any of the soloists, guest soloists who were um scheduled anywhere between January and October. We were all the understudies just to make sure that there would always still be a soloist in that. So I bought a dress the next day. And proof that I did not know that I was pregnant, I bought a dress that was a size zero, you idiot! Salicia! That dress never got worn. It's never seen the light of day. But when I tried it on, I looked like a million bucks, and it is so tight. Well, it was, I can't get it on now. But it was so tight on my waist. It was a size zero. Okay. So there's all of that. Fast forward, I told Hugh and the team I was pregnant after our first weekend. I found out the day we got to Radio City. So after rehearsals, but when we started tech, I found out that I was pregnant. We got through all nine months. And I, you know, I had made, I had made a pact with my unborn son at the time. And I said, baby boy, are you gonna let your mama sing and live her dream on October 3rd at Radio City? Like, if you give me this one, I will have your back forever and freaking always. I mean, I'll have your back anyway, but this will be a different level of like, we've we really got each other. I just knew Baby Boy was going to wait till October. I just knew it in my soul. So when September rolled around, let's see, September was wild. I had my third baby shower at the beginning of September. I had false labor at the beginning of September, like Labor Day. Andrew and I were about to give birth. And in fact, my labor pains on Labor Day weekend were actually worse than the actual day that I gave birth, which is why I didn't know I was in labor. And the doctor told me to go to the hospital on labor, like Labor Day weekend, based on what I was telling her on the voicemail. This was at two in the morning, Labor Day weekend. She said, You need to go to labor and delivery right now. And I didn't. I took medicine and went back to sleep. And I was fine. I also did a show in Oklahoma with like the Hugh Jackman show. Got on a plane. Andrew came with me, and we did a whole show in Oklahoma and got back safely. Did the show at Radio City two weeks later, the 19th and the 20th, and I was like, I just gotta make it two more weeks. I just gotta make it two more weeks to until we get to October, and I'm in the clear. I had my C-section scheduled for the weekend after October 4th, like October 6th, I had a C-section scheduled. I'm like, we're so close. So when the day of September 26th came, I remember waking up at 3 a.m. groaning. I was like, oh. Except without the comedic facial expressions. It was, I woke up groaning and not from a dream. It just was like a deep pain in my back. And then I was like, that was weird. And I went back to sleep. And then I woke up a few minutes later again in the same way. And this is back when I can only sleep on the couch. I could not sleep in the bed because it was so uncomfortable. I could only get comfortable on the couch. I was very, very nine months pregnant. Very pregnant. And then it happened again. And at this point, now Andrew's like, hey, are you okay? I was like, I don't know. I was, I'm sorry. Well, the part that I'm explaining right now is actually way worse than the actual birth. I did not know I was in labor. I thought that I was having an allergic reaction because I got two vaccines that I didn't realize I was supposed to get until it was too late. So they said, go to the pharmacy, tell them you're 36 weeks pregnant, because you need to get these shots to give immunity to the baby. So I got the two recommended shots, even though I was 38 weeks pregnant. And in the directions or whatever, not the directions, but it said, you know, at like the possible side effects could be preterm birth, it could be nausea, it could be all these things. And so the morning of September 26th, I was throwing up, my stomach was in knots, my back was hurting. It was all these things. I was like, I'm having an allergic reaction. I labored until the sun came up. I called the doctor. I did not get a call back. I know why now there was other things happening on my doctor's end, but that never had happened before. And so I just knew if she called me back, then it sounds serious. And if I she doesn't call me back, then it's probably not serious. I didn't get a call back. And so I just kind of like threw up all morning and like worked through the pain. There was something that happened though, around 8:30. I started looking at the clock and it was on the dot. Every five minutes I would feel these pains. Still, I thought it was in my head because it would only last for a few seconds. And I knew that if it was real labor, it would have lasted for a whole minute. It was like I could take five breaths and then the pain would go away. So I was like, oh, well, that's nothing. It's like severe pain, but it's only for five breaths, five short breaths. It was like I did this five times. And by the end of the fifth breath, I was fine. Also, it was only in my back. I never felt any like period cramp pains at all. None of that. So I called the doctor's office when I knew they were open at 9:30. And she was like, Oh, okay, no worries, Selicia. Bubble, you want the doctor to call you back? Sure. I was like, sure. She called me back around 10. She was like, um, why don't you come in and let me assess you? And she told she told me that instead of telling me to go to the hospital because we had a deal. I really wanted a c-section. But I knew I couldn't have a c-section if it was before October 3rd, because I knew I would not have time to heal before October 3rd. And I really wanted to sing the solo at Radio City. So our deal was before October 3rd, we have to push for a natural birth. After October 3rd, give me the C-section. I don't care what anybody thinks about me. I want the freaking C-section. But it was September 26th. Also, because I have a lot of like things that I won't go into right now, like she just how do I say this? We wrote up that before I can get assessed at the hospital, I have to be given an epidural. That's all I'll say. That was part of the deal. So if I end up at the hospital, they're going to see that in the notes and give me the epidural right away before they even assess me. The thing is, though, if you have an epidural, you're not going to leave the hospital without the baby. So she said, Why don't you come to my office and let me assess you? And right before she hung up, she did say, bring your hospital back just in case. I was like, What? What? So I'm like, okay, I told Andrew what she said, and we start getting ready. Getting ready when you're in labor is difficult, which is why you kind of have to like already be ready and have things laid out. There were many things that were not in the hospital bag that should have been there. And so I was like, Andrew, we need this, we need that, grab my iPad, all this, blah, blah, blah. So we grabbed it and put it by the hospital bag. I needed him to put it in the hospital bag, but that's another story. I got into the shower. I wanted to do my hair just in case, because last time I was like, my hair was jacked up, and I didn't want to go to the hospital when I was in false labor because my hair was jacked up. So I got into the shower and I tried to do my curls, but my contractions while I was in the shower was one long continuous contraction. It never let up. It let up when I got out of the shower. But while I was in the shower, I was really at the mercy of my contraction and I couldn't really move. Like I was able to like barely soap up my body. And I started washing my hair, but I decided we're not gonna do the shampoo. We're really just gonna use our InnerSense repair mask. I did the deep condition. I was able to detangle it. And then I put in a hair product. I could not seal it with the gel. I could not seal it with the texturizer. I had to just rinse out the deep conditioner and put the product in the first line pro this matters because I couldn't finish my process. I got out of the shower and I was like, I gotta brush my teeth. I can't show up in here with funky breath. I was able to like do the left side of my mouth before giving up. Okay. I was literally, I was struggling. I'm like, and I couldn't explain it. I still was thinking I'm having an allergic reaction, and now I'm thinking, well, maybe I'm dying. I I just dropped the toothbrush in the sink and said, okay, we're done with that. Then I wanted to wear a cute outfit as my arrival outfit in case if I had to go to the hospital. I did not have time to pick out a cute arrival outfit. I could only reach for the nearest dress that I could see, which was the outfit that I wore the day before. I put it on, and as time is going, I'm realizing I have to go. I don't know, I can't explain it. I just know deep in my gut, literally, that I need to leave right now. It was as if I don't know if I've ever told the story on here of the time I got to dance with Diana Ross on stage in Hammond, Indiana. I really wanted to meet her, and everything I did, nothing worked. Like I reached out to the VIP, I reached out to her press people, and I like nothing was working. And I had a ticket for the nosebleeds for her concert. Long story short, I had this undescribable feeling to get up out of my chair and to walk to the stage. That is crazy. That is crazy, but it was something that I could not ignore. It was like, I have to get up right now. And I'm going to walk to the stage, even though I see security and I see this and I see that. I literally walked to the stage. Like I felt like I was being pulled by angels or spirits or something. Something was, it was such a huge gravitational pull to the stage. I can't even articulate it. I got to the lip of the stage. She looks down at me while she's singing upside down. And she says, Do you want to come up here and dance with me? What? That is out of this world. Well, now fast forward to, and I did. Some bodyguard pulled me up on stage, and next thing I know, I'm dancing with Diana Ross when everything else I tried to do to meet her was not working. And she asked me to come on stage and didn't even know that I was portraying her and Trevor the Musical down the street at the time in Chicago. Anyway, the birthday of my son Ajax, Anthony Weiss, I felt this like I need to go now. And I can't explain it. I did not think I was in labor. I knew it was possible because of the doctor saying bring your hospital bag, but I didn't think I was in labor. And suddenly I all of the things that I wanted to do and pack and all of like the details, none of them mattered anymore. I just called the Uber and told Andrew, I'm walking out the door. He was making a pancake. I was like, I don't think we have time for you to finish making that pancake. When I get to the car, I'm leaving. And I was on a mission. I was like, everything that we needed to take is right here. You have to bring it. I cannot carry it. And I was like marching in between contractions, I was marching, like marching out the door, and I could see the Uber. And I was about to leave my husband because he was taking too long making that freaking pancake. But when I got outside to the front of the building, I had another contraction, and I just remember grabbing onto the pole in front of my apartment building and just huh. I could see a neighbor walking his dog walking passing by. I could see him see me, and I didn't have the energy to tell him that everything was okay. Mostly because everything actually was not okay. But I didn't, I just had to let the onlookers look. And because I had a contraction, Andrew was able to catch up to me before I got in the Uber. The Uber driver had to have known what was going on because Andrew was carrying a car seat and a bunch of other stuff. And I was carrying a glass jar to throw up in just in case. Like I didn't know what was wrong with me, but I knew I was not well. We get to the doctor's office. I don't have any words. I am when something is actually wrong with me, I am not screaming, I'm not dramatic, I'm very quiet. We get to the doctor's office and they're like, We see you. I sit down and I don't interrupt. I don't, you know, I'm just sitting there and I'm waiting. And I could hear my doctor was giving somebody an exam. And I was trying my best to be patient, and I waited there for like 10 minutes. Then I just start barfing in the waiting room. And the girls behind the front desk were like, ah, Dr. Phillips. Uh is in here, and um, you should probably get out here soon. She wraps up pretty quickly. I get admitted into the room. She was able to assess me. She was able to do what no doctor has been able to ever do. That's another episode for another day. But she was able to do the impossible. And afterwards, she was trying not to laugh, but she was like, Selicia, you are in active labor. And I believe the words she used were six centimeters dilated and a hundred percent effaced. She's like, you need to go to the hospital now. And so, I'm so grateful that she asked one of the girls behind the front desk to walk me and Andrew over there because Andrew was carrying a million things. The girl that walked with us was able to hold my hand. I had so many contractions as we walked down Lexington Avenue. If you don't live in New York City, Lexington Avenue at lunchtime, very, very, very busy street. There was no wheelchair. It was an it was like a block and an avenue that we had to walk. So we couldn't really call an Uber. It was so close, but not close enough because I was like in active labor. So I'm like walking. I could see, I didn't look at anybody's faces. I could just see people's feet stop. I was only looking down. I could see people's feet stop in the direction of wherever I was standing, just on all sides. I just saw feet, pairs of feet facing towards me and just stopped dead in their tracks. I never looked up to see anybody's face. I just was like breathing and trying to get to the hospital. And I kept hearing people ask for a wheelchair. Can we get her a wheelchair? And no wheelchair showed up, and I was not gonna wait for it. I just kept walking until I had a contraction, and then I just had to stop walking. Eventually, we get to the front doors, the main doors of Lennox Hill Hospital where Beyonce gave birth, and a wheelchair shows up, and I get to sit down in the wheelchair, and I just remember bypassing all the security, all of the mo metal detectors. We did not check in. Somebody wheeled me very quickly to the elevator, and I remember hearing somebody say, Hold that elevator! She's in labor now. They were holding the elevator. We got up to labor and delivery on the sixth floor, and some girl handed me a packet of paper, and I'm just trying I'm like trying to fill it out. And the other girl sees what's happening and is like, She does not have time to fill out this paperwork. She will do it later. And so they take it away from me, they give me a hospital gown to put on, and for the first time. Time stopped. When I got to go to the bathroom and put on the hospital rope, I was alone for the first time that day. And I just remember like looking in the mirror and knowing today is the day that I have been so afraid of my entire life. It is here. It is happening. There's nothing I can do to stop it. At this point, we are operation epidural. Get the drugs. No matter what has to happen before just let everything happen that needs to happen so that you can get the epidural that you need. That is all I could think. And I I had this moment of acceptance of we're we're doing this. Because up until this point, I had been in a fierce denial that I was in labor. They wheeled me over to the delivery room. They can't find my veins. I was stuck somewhere between 10, between 10 and 20 times of them trying to find my way veins. I always have small veins. It's always hard for people to find my veins, but this particular morning I'd been throwing up over and over. So I was dehydrated. They brought in like the main person and he couldn't find my veins. Like flash forward, I remember performing at Radio City and looking down and seeing bruises all over my arm for where they couldn't find my vein. Like that was a moment that if I was not in labor, it would have been a very um stressful time. But being in labor, I was like, do not fight them, Celicia. Let them do what they need to do because the sooner they find the vein, the sooner you can get the epidural. The more you fight them, the longer this is going to take. And they will not give you the epidural until you are hooked up to these fluids. So just let it happen. And I did. And it was uncomfortable, but it was not the end of the world. That's coming from somebody who does not like needles. Eventually, they found what they needed to in my hand, which is not the ideal place, but I did not care. Then the main guy comes in to give me the epidural, and I was scared leading up to this moment. In the actual moment, I was like, Doc, do what you gotta do. I don't have time to fuss with you. I don't have time to fight you. I don't have time to make you do this wrong. I'm just gonna lay here. And so I was very much at the mercy of that energy of just get it freaking done. And he did. And he was like, Can you feel this? I was like, Yes, I can still feel that. So he did a little something else. I gave him some notes. And then the next thing I knew, within like 10 minutes, within five minutes, maybe, I stopped feeling the contractions. And I was able to relax. And I realized in hindsight, that was the hardest part of the day. Pushing, easy compared to that. Honestly. I got to put my makeup on. I didn't eat anything. I didn't want anything. I I called my friend. I hung out. Wonder if I took a nap? I don't know if I took a nap, but I the I the moral is once the epidural set in, I was a happy camper. The doctor came by from the office visit. She came by, um, she gave me an assessment. She was like, okay, you're now at this point. Oh, I also had a delivery photographer, Tatiana Breslow. She they're on Instagram as the Brunizers. She was one of my wedding photographers.

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She was incredible. So when the doctor came in, she said, All right, Salisha, what are your priorities today? And I was like, it's just a trick question. I was like, um, lighting? Because I wanted to have good lighting so the photographer can get all the good stuff. That's so silly. Also, I didn't know that the photographer, Tatiana, she also took an audio recording. I did not want a video in that room. I don't, like, even to this day, I'm like, I don't regret not having a video taken. But I did want photos and I didn't know she was doing an audio recording, but I'm so glad she did. It's a 39-minute recording and it captures the beginning, the pushing, and the end. I pushed for 20 minutes. But before I could push, the doctor came in. Okay, first time doctor came in, she did another assessment. She said, Okay, this is where you're at. In about two hours, I'll be back, and then we'll go from there. She came back two and a half hours later. The things that they told me to look for to see if I'm feeling, I had been feeling them for quite a while and I had not told anybody. They said, once you feel rectal pressure, let us know. I did not let anybody know. I was so scared. I was so scared of like once I tell them, then it's gonna be time. And I'm so afraid. I was so afraid of so many things. So I didn't say anything. Dr. Phillips comes back, and she is a good-looking black woman. Like, she is dressed to the nines. She just is amazing. She's amazing. She is amazing. And I heard she was amazing before September 26th. Like I knew she was amazing before I got to actually get to work with her in the birth. But what she did that day was a piece of art. The way she was able to relax my mind, the way she got me to do the thing, the way I didn't feel any pain. It was really incredible what she did. She said, okay, well, either we can try to push now, or I can go pick up my kids from soccer, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'll be back in three hours. I immediately said, go take care of your kids. We're not going anywhere, even though I had been feeling rectal pressure for like an hour. And somebody else said something in the room, and she was like, huh, let's just try to do some practice pushes. Meanwhile, Andrew had just left the room and I am now like frantically texting him back. I'm like, babe, get back now. We're doing it right now. I think he was going out to look for like us a t-shirt, a white t-shirt for footprints or something, but it's not the ink footprints anymore that they used to do back in the day. It's all electronic. Anyway, he rushes back to the hospital. I'm like, oh my goodness. Thank God. Because he would have missed the whole thing. I only pushed for 20 minutes, but I didn't know that yet. Once we start doing practice pushes, the doctor realizes that this is going to happen sooner than she thought. Why? Because even though I'd never done it before, the what they were describing for me to do, I was like, I can do that. I actually held back the first few pushes because I was afraid of two things. I was afraid of ripping to my asshole and taking a number two. Neither of those things happened. And I'm so grateful. Mostly, I think, I mean, I've never given birth before this time, but all morning when I was throwing up, I was also, it was coming out of both ends. So I was pretty cleared out and I didn't eat after that. So that was like there was nothing else that could come out of me. I'd been emptying all morning. And but when it came to tearing, that was one of my biggest fears. And I had a lot of people had told me their horror stories before, which was really unkind. I'm really upset at all the people who told me their horror birth stories before I gave birth because I was really afraid. And there was this moment of when I thought I could feel her fingers. I thought I had already ripped. And so I I was like, you know what? At this point, there's nothing else to lose. I might as well actually give them a good push. And I did. I get I not to I did rip, I did push. And I think she said it was 12 contractions. They were about two minutes apart, less than that. But within 12 contractions, I had pushed the baby out. And I I did have a minor tear. And I can say in hindsight, the healing has been, it has been, I don't want to say really wonderful, but I've not felt any pain. I did, I took the medicine they told me to take all over the counter. I iced it. I didn't going to the bathroom the first time for those who are about to be new moms. I was really afraid of like the things that I'd heard online. It really was not an issue. It was not an issue going number one or number two. This is a lot of information. This is a lot, I know. But I just want to take the mystery out of it for those who are like, what is it? Because no one would actually tell me the details before it was my turn. It was actually really okay. And I think she had to sew me. I think I got a few stitches down there, but I never felt it, couldn't feel it. The epidural had not worn off. Also, I got um an extra dose of epidural right before the baby came out. I don't think you're supposed to do that, but I demanded it. And I'm so glad I did because I really I could still feel pushing. I could feel everything I was supposed to feel, but I was not in pain. And it did not rip me too, like it wasn't like it was not a bad tear. And she did the stitches while I was holding my baby. I didn't feel any of that. It was so surreal. And I just remember looking up at Andrew. I remember looking up at my husband, who his whole face was red and he was holding back tears, and seeing him so happy was the final, like, okay, we did it. We did it. And seeing our baby boy was like, okay, we did it. And when he first came out, right before he came out, like I guess his head was coming out, and the doctor was like, Do you want to feel his head? I said, no. Ugh, that sounded disgusting to me. But they were like, touch the head, touch the head. I touched the head. I was like, okay, that was just as disgusting as I thought it was gonna be. It felt so gooey. But then when he came out, I didn't know he'd come out because he was silent. He was silent. And then I Andrew told me later, somebody gave him the slap of life or something. And then that is when I could hear on the audio recording, because I don't really remember, that he started wailing and screaming and crying. I'm like, oh my gosh. And watch like seeing my baby for the first time was such a surreal moment. It felt like, what on earth? That just came out of me. And I had this moment of like, if you've ever seen Love is Blind on Netflix, it's this moment of you've heard this person, even though I'd not heard Ajax, I'd felt him all year. And then seeing the thing that you have had these interactions with for the first time felt very like disorienting. I was thinking, that huge thing just came out of me. What? And he wasn't like his skin color was kind of weird at first, and he was like all wet at first, and his hair was straight, and it it was just so weird. But I was thinking, oh my god. And when they handed him to me, I think I just started sobbing. And I looked at Andrew, who is also in that same space, and like, what just happened? I still say that every day I look at him, I'm like, how did you come out of me? And I see my smile and my face shape and my nose on him, but some kind of way he makes all these facial expressions that Andrew makes, and it's very like it's a miracle. It's so interesting to like look at Andrew sleeping on the bed with his hands behind his head, and then I look over at the bassinet and I see my newborn sleeping in the exact same pose as his dad, who he can't even see. It is very like it is life-changing. My son has changed my life. Ajax Anthony Weiss has changed my life. And giving birth to him forced me to get over a lot of fears that I had before. And I did it. And my little cousin who just gave birth a month before me, who growing up was afraid of everything, she said, Selicia, if I can do it, you can do it. You can do this. She said that, and I didn't believe her, and now I've done it. And for those who are very scared, like I was, I want to tell you that you can do this. You can do this. I'm not sure what else needs to be added to that, except that I loved the hospital. I loved being able to hit the red button. Anytime I was like overwhelmed or like the baby was crying or fussing or needed to be changed, I would hit the red button. Somebody would come in and take care of it. If I wanted somebody to hand me the baby from the bassinet, hit the red button. If I needed anything, I could just hit the red button. I was like, I loved it. It was like free room service. I say free, that hospital bill. Yikes. I it was really wonderful. We stayed an extra day in the hospital. We really enjoyed it that much. Healing has been really lovely and obviously lovely enough that I could take the stage at Radio City and sing a solo in front of 6,000 people seven days later. That is how it was going, how it's been going. Obviously, I've needed to slow down since then because I never really got a chance. Everybody came in town at the same time and everybody wanted to help and see the baby. But like, new mom, I was like really overwhelmed, but also grateful for the love and the support. So that was a lot. I might do that differently next time, but overall, a positive experience. And once again, like I feel like God, you did it again. You did it again. So that is my birth story summed up. I had the baby September 26th. I took the stage before then on September 19th and 20th, and after then on October 3rd and 4th. And now we are here. Four weeks later, we live to tell the tale. And he's changed all of our lives. And yeah. Hugh Jackman is the godfather of our little baby. And we've not gone on record to tell anybody that, but that's how special this year has been, and how much of an impact he's had on our family and our life, and me and Andrew are so grateful. So that's where we are, and now I'm gonna end this so I can go home to my newborn. Cheers to that. Thanks for tuning in to the Silicia Show. See you next week.